Obama Holding Health-Care Forum in NH; Is His Strategy Better Than We Thought?

This is not unknown to a lot of us but I just wanted to put this out there and share some thoughts on Obama holding a health-care forum after the recent SEIU, well, debacle is the best way I could put it.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/03272 007/nhnews-ph-p-obama.forum.html

On Tuesday, April 3, Obama will hold a forum to get input from the public on the problems they are having with the current system of health care in this country and what they would like to see in a new system. That forum titled "A Community Meeting on Health Care with Sen. Barack Obama," will be held at 2:30 p.m., at Seacoast Media Group's new headquarters, 111 New Hampshire Ave., at the Pease International Tradeport.

"As I confirm my ideas on health care with the experts, I also want to go into communities and talk to families dealing with health care issues, doctors, nurses and other providers," Obama said in a telephone interview Monday. "I think Portsmouth is wonderfully representative of the communities of this nation."

The Illinois senator said he has found in the course of his career both in the U.S. Senate and in his state's Legislature, that by listening to the American people he can create more effective policies and be a better legislator.

"I believe that sense stems from my background as a community organizer," Obama said.

This strikes me as pretty smart: making ordinary people a part of the process and giving them a chance to tell him in an open public forum what they think is wrong with the system.

Now, Obama's had some bad press recently, both in the traditional media and especially here on MyDD, and somewhat deservedly so, IMO. Showing up at a forum, speaking next to more prepared candidates with nothing more than a general set of principles was not a particularly good idea. Perhaps he felt it necessary after skipping the AFSCME forum in Nevada previously, but most everyone seems to agree that little came out of his visit this past weekend.

He said the information he gleans from the April 3 forum in Portsmouth will be used to help craft a comprehensive health-care policy that will be presented to the nation in the course of his campaign and then, hopefully, enacted once he becomes president.

"I'm hoping for a good turnout," Obama said.

He's kind of taking a chance here. Is it just in Portsmouth, NH in which he's to hold a forum? To what degree will he really incorporate suggestions from the attendees?

Either way, what this tells me is that this campaign is far from over. Showing up at one forum in Nevada without specifics hurt him, but it appears that he's ready to start atoning for that error.

Here in the netroots we've been going crazy about his Nevada appearance. What happened there doesn't sit well with a lot of Obama supporters here, and those who were hoping to hear more from him at the SEIU forum.

We are closing in on 8 months until the first caucuses in Iowa. Several months away from any debates. Nineteen months away from the general election. At this point of the 2004 election I thought we'd be stuck with Joe Lieberman. In December 2003 I was certain that Howard Dean would be the nominee. This can change. Rapidly.

What seems interesting about this event that Obama is holding is that it shows there is a lot of campaigning left to be done. Even after a rough weekend the guy is ready to bounce back and turn his weakness into a strength. Holding forums to make people a part of the process, which kind of corny-sounding, can be an effective event in terms of policy development and public relations.

Many here will probably disagree with me somehow, and that's okay. My goal today is just to get the info out there and maybe present another way to look at things. I for one have realized that I'm wound way too tightly about this politics stuff and should probably go into political hibernation for the summer.



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I disagree that the his performance at SEIU was that bad... he wasn't the best, but he wasn't the worst either... Granted, my POV is biased, so that could be clouding my judgement.

I do not think the SEIU forum will hurt him long term and frankly with all the events forthcoming, it will be forgotten about with a strong performance in the next forum or debate which will be coming up in a few weeks.  
In fact if he gets a lot of strong coverage from his March 31 event, it could erase most or all of any short term damaged caused.  

People who say Obama is short on substance are entirely ignorant of the man... of the People who are skeptical of Obama, Vox Populi actually seems to me to have the best measure of him at this point in the race... to paraphrase, he said Obama has an impressive Progressive pedigree but he isn't talking about it at all in the election so far and that worries him.  

This does measure up the Obama campaign so far... but why this is the case is where people differ.  Some chalk it up that Obama is a closet conservative... which given his record is pure idiocy.  Some say he is scared or timid to get labeled a liberal so the press and GOP will attack him... this is a reasonable theory given that he does have some of the usual gang of idiot beltway consultants running his campaign.  

Then there are people like me, who think that the lack of details and talking about his roots and stances is CALCULATED, but not from fear. Its the slow build... Obama is trying to get into people's heads the generalities of himself so people know him.  As time goes by, he will spell out more specifics and mention his stances more often.  

This strategy may work or may not... it seems sound as many politicians have flared then fizzled... but the ones who we keep learning more about and hear new things from thrive.  Will Obama do this or is he afraid of the liberal label?  Only time will tell.


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 12:11:35 PM EST

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I disagree that the his performance at SEIU was that bad... he wasn't the best, but he wasn't the worst either.

I do agree with that, mostly because you, I and lot of other Obama supporters see the man for what he is: just a different kind of politician. He's not going to do things the same way as other. He's not going to pander to every group, and he's not going to recycle talking points just to give the illusion that of preparedness.

The only thing that bothered me about the SEIU forum is that others were more prepared than he was. Its probably not realistic to expect someone to have an all-out plan for fixing health care at this point in the campaign, unless they've been around for awhile. But still, it looks bad when others are ready and you are not. So its just kind of up to us as voters and activists whether or not we want to hold that against him.

I don't, but I want him to start getting it together.


by mihan on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 12:17:50 PM EST
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About the SIEU forum (none / 0)

I don't think the criticism of him there was that he didn't pander, seems like a couple of other things that both of you are alluding to, and at the heart of Jerome's post as well.

1) he didn't seem prepared. not necessarily with a plan, but with a framework of ideas. He wasn't able to effectively and clearly relate what direction he wanted to go in

2) tailoring the speech - not pandering. Its really talking to your audience. Seemed like he hasn't done that well at times. Which is odd because it seems like he has done that in the past, like in Selma and in his huge rallies. Part of it seems to be a tendency to over-verbalize.

I saw him on Larry King the other day and noticed how when he answers questions, his answers tend to be rather long, multiphrase, multisentence answers. Good answers, but maybe a bit hard to hold onto for some. I've noticed this in his other interviews as well. Edwards and Hillary have also had problems with this at times, but I think they have managed in great part to learn when to turn it off and when to turn it on.

The health care forum he is doing in April seems to offer an opportunity and also possibly a little bit of danger regarding expectations. Even billing it as a listening forum, I imagine many will come because they want to hear Obama's views as well and he will hopefully be prepared for that.


by okamichan13 on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 03:05:00 PM EST
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Probably so... I mean frankly this is very similiar to what Bill Clinton did in 1992.  I still think the speaking to specific audiences is on purpose... The Selma one worked because it was general... but the ones with rabid partisanship or issue specific it doesn't work.  As the campaign goes on, he will get more specific... again I think it is part of the big reveal... He is in Act 1, right now and setting up the general story... He is getting criticized because two of the top 3 are well known... America knows their story and so they go to specifics early.  This si actually very similiar to the 2004 primaries in the Illinois senate.  That is why I am not worried.  If he stays +/- 4% where he is averaging in the polls, he will keep growing as he starts to put out specifics... right now its about generalities for him.... In a few months it goes into specifics.  


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 03:56:08 PM EST
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Obama has a lot of experience dealing with health care issues. See this transcript of him arguing for the Universal Health Care Act in the Illinois State Senate. http://www.obamapedia.org/page/Universal +Health+Care+%28Health+Care+Justice+Act% 29

He knows the issue, and I think he will come up with an excellent health care plan. I'm tired of this "I came up with a health care plan first. Now, I'm the more substantive candidate..." It's BS.


by jb1125 on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 04:28:30 PM EST

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I guess this is the first of the now-notorious "roundtables" he's holding on the issue.


by blueflorida on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 04:35:35 PM EST

doesn't seem like such a bad idea (none / 0)

raise awareness, stay in the news, listen to the people, give them a chance to talk to the candidate. Not too bad. The roundtable thing sounds pretty dull compared to other people with plans ready to go, right now, but in a few months, who knows?


by mihan on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 04:59:05 PM EST
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